To further expand the discussion, I might add that when we approve Planned Communities outside the commonly accepted International Fire Code Response times we are providing tacit approval and acknowledgement of calculated risks such as this example. Sorry Nemo!  The Committee Chairman will be Perry Oldenburg. 0000001308 00000 n This is the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) written by Perry Oldenburg. Any of you remember the “free fire truck” the old Triangle Dairy used to offer as a public service?  The Committee will include members of  Local #672 Executive Board and members at large.”, Boise City - Motion to Create 48-96 Committee. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. The homes in the area don’t qualify for annexation into either the Whitney District (which Boise covers by contract) or the City due to lack of infrastructure such as street width, water mains, and response times. x�b```f``�����(��A���2�@q� 2� �@Qv�@2 *��*�4�E"�ZM�L& �y���9��j��>�R����R�H�۵iF � ` 6K7 Probably does not have the money. 0000002648 00000 n 0000000915 00000 n H�|VMO�H��WX�FZz����Ɛ��`��Q ��W�f���_������]���k�;Ӡ�М~t���8�8�,���7�o�^�����{9�V�O^@Q���rƅ*��BeW 2#�(Lȑ��� C[����������z�p���g�8�v��8S��EȤ�t*1f"P���ԇ����/���(_,��"X_�c�F��X��J1����CC� �ȸ�d�������q�FB���oU7�AŸr*�/^�v��nS�(���m�w�KJ@�ֳ�Ȕ0��}W?�)���  I therefore would like to make the following motion : MOTION - “A 48/96 Committee be created. %%EOF They got a sweet deal because the highly rated (by insurance underwriter standards) Boise FD responds to these rural areas under a new contract. Such a QRU would relieve the call load on the Boise FD which is already short staffed. H�|V�n�0��+tk$,�o�Dϭ�^ The daily rag made the statement that “the BFD CHOSE to respond.” Historically, homeowners that are not in a fire district pay much larger premiums because their insurance company knows that in case of a fire, there will be much greater losses due to no fire response. This fire could potentially have created another great foothills catastrophe causing havoc for people who do pay their share of the cost for maintaining this community. Logic does NOT prevail. Boise Fire Department serves a population of nearly 236,000 residents in Idaho's largest city. Let’s make freedom free again, especially for those in the free freedom movement! The state land use planning act calls for high density development to be directed towards urban areas. 19 0 obj <> endobj 19 17 SAA Young stated that she has e-mail confirmation from Boise Fire Department that the new engine is fully insured by Boise City. There is indeed a need, but not necessarily to be filled by Boise. 0000003630 00000 n Hidden Springs Fire Department history serves as an example to that point. How does one get fire insurance in an area without a fire district? endstream endobj 20 0 obj <> endobj 21 0 obj <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB]>>/Type/Page>> endobj 22 0 obj <> endobj 23 0 obj <> endobj 24 0 obj <> endobj 25 0 obj <> endobj 26 0 obj <>stream  The website contains numerous studies and informational packets.  Following the posting, the MOU will be presented to Local #672 membership for a ratification vote. There is indeed a need, but not necessarily to be filled by Boise. The home doesn’t deserve fire protection without ADVANCED payment (taxes) anymore than it deserves fire insurance without advance payment….the 73 Dodge is toast anyway you cut it 10 miles from the station. Motion To Create 48-96 Committee. So, wait a minute. Trouble is, Ada County routinely approves junk like Avimor, Hammer Flat, and others, miles from town, and recklessly goes so far as to waive Wildland Urban Fire Interface (WUFI) standards. 0000000831 00000 n  The MOU will be posted for a minimum of 30 days. 0000007473 00000 n Consideration to sign the MOU with Boise City Fire Department placing the new Arrow XT (E-16) Engine into the JPA. Owners of the elite homes do not pay for fire service of any kind and Gary Campbell has refused to pay the City for responding to his home. Chief Dennis Doan informs us he has another agreement with the State Transportation Dept. Help provide financial support for citizen journalism.  The Committee will make every attempt to have a completed MOU on or before 16 August, 2004. 0000000016 00000 n endstream endobj 28 0 obj <>stream It has long expired and BFD just does it. MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING The Boise River Flood Control District #10 ("FCD 10") and the Idaho Department ofEnvironmental Quality ("DEQ") hereby enter into this Memorandum ofUnderstanding ("MOU") on this _ day of ... MOU are met, and with the approval ofany fire control authority having jurisdiction in the the Memorandum of Understanding Between Department of the Army/DOD Executive Agent and Boise Interagency Fire Center, dated 9/13/90. Campbell’s “independence” has real costs for the rest of us when bad things happen. Of course, the judge could always say the fire department shouldn’t have been there in the first place. ��bH�5��9��)G�Mǥ��uLX�p>���Ɇ�����y"�*��e��k;v��0�-���X���C�>Ȥ�9�>_� ~Dd� endstream endobj 27 0 obj <>stream If the gentleman has insurance, why would it take two years to pay up? THIS IS A REVISED STORY WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING I-84 RESPONSES. Boise FD responded to the blaze off Table Rock Rock in a subdivision known as Wildhorse, even though it is outside the city and not in any fire district. The other question is how does one rebuild a 7,000 square foot home on four acres of land and get an assessed value of only $500,000 while the neighbor nearby had a 5,800 sf house on 2.5 acres but a valuation of $1.49 million? These facts need to be highlighted and the public safety must always drive approval of large projects outside fire district coverage or accepted response time standards. Meanwhile those of us who regularly pay for fire protection are getting, well, you know what…. And, the AG turns a blind eye to the county violating state code. Choosing to build outside the fire district is like choosing to not wear a seatbelt. startxref The Committee will work with Fire Administration and City Leaders during this process. Boise City Memorandum of Understanding.  The Committee will be charged with constructing a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) to implement the 48/96 schedule on a trial basis. 0  It is clearly evident that many Local #672 members are interested in a “trial” 48/96 period. 3. I agree with G-Man, except if it’s property owned by a cop, Tea Party member,vet, mini-rancher or anyone trying to mess with our constitution. I84 rescue squad…now there’s an idea. If the resources are available, they should dowse the small ones, even if they are way out there. If I am to be Captain, I want to drive!! EDITOR NOTE– Many years ago there was a MEMORANDUM of UNDERSTANDING (MOU) between Ada County and Whitney FD. SOME COMMENTS BELOW MAY NO LONGER APPLY. 0000001585 00000 n The vote will be conducted 30 days after the proposal is posted on the Union website. However, the original certificate of … What would even make it better is if Dave (The Editor of this fine media outlet)was the Chief, Cyclops the Capt., Nemo the driver and Lisa the hose dragger. )kt2>�����~؟W�m��� �[gj2�v�M�pI���Z74՟�L=8�Ǿ�0U�ZK8�?T��}֟ʍ��a<1���^��� +�`Ub*�Y �}��&h�fDO1V���~tݚ�2��e�@���=���6X� e*.y�L�(�Vy���� �y��0BaST��!�����3�6�������B ���~���Û/�ō[��P��U�����e9�.n�P�Z�p�Eh՝�ًl���f��ު�vj��g;��]u��N�/�]X´]�����i���ak��)���h�In���OE�]4�@p�w�z.���[_O)��6r��YH:��� ��_���ӈ�� 9� Second, as for the county’s and the state’s responsibilities for structure fires, the G-Man is right, but it starts upstream of the fire stations. s������8���1j�Wr���ɗ��y�T�C��i&H�/�_d��IU,�ܥ �4-�R������A;tx�Z�ی�.l���u������b�3e�أ�>"����Wf]}�TT5I_4ou�6��e�@푧�4��)�X1u�[���{��t��!wL�����S���UW=����&�E��J��|8�ج���3k��5np`���.�~�b�ڴ l���S S�s*HQ�qȩ�S���Ь�n��Mu��Ш�HM�P#WW7Sy��#I�����7�ԎDu�kR��}��e�@����5����_�pg�w���ƞ����~j�&5����.9\]B�{h�\�B9�T,���zq�(�ᱎl245�\C�I)~,�g��K�2c6�c�(o�>�n4�$識>�� $�Ę6S�z�����+,g`I����@����FX���no�t�"�w�W�rׯ�n��U�g�V3ڠ)np:����k�l�:{CX>�.\�����툴�nx�y����]�Vok��S7�d�� 'U�=B�4�։=Jy�Q�۪d��a���&��LT%5y�xr@#�1�o����y��b0�W����G�+��+���y���w�����Ď.CZ�B�����|lx�}PY"�h��S2X�a�΍�Ό#r3�zE�+�` j6� Those residents previously applied for annexation into the North Ada district which offered a lower level of response and a much lower tax rate than that paid by Boise residents. A couple of things, First fire protection is very much about fire prevention. July 1, 2018 - June 30, 2021 Be careful what you put on your facebook! ���*l1����.Ň(�(r�3���X��?3�ה7R�fw�{9�_�۫W��w�w�hvOw�P�� P���mN�d�}��r�!4��R�H�X)~���c�`T�N�:��w/���x�e�NK �e�~���Tn޷�0�|������hF���K��U8eDh�O����G�� This goes to the issue of the great independents who choose to live “on their own” yet take advantage of all the services the rest of us pay for. I have the trucks, 30 of them, that would handle most anything on the interstate from fire to ems response…You need a Job?. It has long expired and BFD just does it. All great points. xref  The Committee will work with Fire Administration and City Leaders during this process. Boise Fire Department / IAFF Local #672 The Committee will be charged with constructing a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) to implement the 48/96 schedule on a trial basis. 0000006484 00000 n EDITOR NOTE– We don’t know the details of his policy of course, but given his ZIP code address the insurance company probably assumed he was within the Boise FD area, or at least a sub urban coverage area. I would suggest an “I-84 Rescue Squad” staffed by volunteers and funded by the County. In a radio interview yesterday, he has turned the bill over to his insurance company. Dave, I have heard that Idaho Dept. ICUyTXI(U�OE!�F(QN.��g�r Fdto};�s��?I$*� DZ6�}n��� �4�J�̚A� C�"��9��>�������[��� 5Șe��v�.��(+�'�;����}Ƥ�Z%�5�dmU�E� "� e�G�5L�&�prY��z�q�`�m{v>�ID�Ez�'z}����0�����,M'�P�Y)�L�ti���p��p_���>p|˪�j�mw8_�D��[�ۢ 0��&\q�H�#��w�,�k��(� �[5��K;�,-�p9�6{p�+�HL���DMޏ�w�{^Y_,}? Oh what a better state we would live in. Stopping a small one a few miles down the road makes a lot more sense than fighting a huge conflagration when it gets to town. to respond at the rate of $153 per hour for an engine and crew of three firefighters along a 13 mile stretch of I-84 east of Boise. How was the working vacation? 0000001488 00000 n Good idea Dave…anything is possible, now reach for your dreams!! Only speculation, but the insurance company may be holding up his claim because he was NOT within a fire protection district. H��VM��6��Э)�%8����|��,гlsc5���.��3�H����f��o޼Z2����������������q�Ǭ�C4��)�h5��]��% !D9n���.kб=g�O�=��0�F�/!uDLi3��)��Ú�� In light of that, I think the BFD should send a bill to Ada County and the state when they put out a fire one of the county’s far development farces. �StX�4Z}�)�\;|[5 H8� A&. If fire fighters are expected to put their lives on the line for some idiot who knows damn good and well he built in dangerous territory not covered, then HE should pay for funeral costs, life insurance costs, living costs, of the families of any fire fighters who potentially could lose their lives messing around with his preeeeeeecious home that’s better than yours or mine. My question is why would the city respond to a non covered address in the first place?  The website has been operational for a number of months and has created a good forum for discussion. Emergency response services are delivered from 17 fire stations located throughout the city in a 130+ square mile response area. 0000004589 00000 n WOW…Thanks for tha offer but I already have a fire job. Where we part ways with Doan and City officials is the recent agreement to provide fire service to the North Ada County District which includes Bogus Basin Road and Hidden Springs.